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	<title>Comments on: Testing some new plugins</title>
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	<description>Music, Veganism, Travel</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Eckman</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>John Eckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This time I provided no URL, just an email address. Making sure Gravatars and MyBlogLog work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This time I provided no URL, just an email address. Making sure Gravatars and MyBlogLog work</p>
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		<title>By: John Eckman</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1296</link>
		<dc:creator>John Eckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what happens on a url which is not an openid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what happens on a url which is not an openid?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I am already logged in, does it pull my hcard from my url, or does it pull gravatar from my email address?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am already logged in, does it pull my hcard from my url, or does it pull gravatar from my email address?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, trying this again. Since &lt;a href="http://fourstarters.com/2008/01/20/havatar-wordpress-plugin/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this plugin&lt;/a&gt; was released I'm trying to use its hCard parsing instead. 

Still relying on MBLA plus Favatars plus this new hAvatar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, trying this again. Since <a href="http://fourstarters.com/2008/01/20/havatar-wordpress-plugin/" rel="nofollow">this plugin</a> was released I&#8217;m trying to use its hCard parsing instead. </p>
<p>Still relying on MBLA plus Favatars plus this new hAvatar.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you share the code from the hCard import plugin? 

I know it is referred to as "semi-released" on your blog, but the link (http://singpolyma.net/hcard-import-plugin.tar.gz) is 404 for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you share the code from the hCard import plugin? </p>
<p>I know it is referred to as &#8220;semi-released&#8221; on your blog, but the link (http://singpolyma.net/hcard-import-plugin.tar.gz) is 404 for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Paul Weber</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Paul Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hCard import plugin is far more strict and smart about hCard precessing -- Avatar from URL was written as a 'last resort' plugin :)

Definitely interested in seeing code when you're done though :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hCard import plugin is far more strict and smart about hCard precessing &#8212; Avatar from URL was written as a &#8216;last resort&#8217; plugin <img src='http://www.goatless.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Definitely interested in seeing code when you&#8217;re done though <img src='http://www.goatless.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1153</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen - thanks for the comment. Seems that the &lt;a href="http://spanring.eu/blog/2007/03/07/openid-in-wordpress/" rel="nofollow"&gt;WP-OpenID plugin has some conflict with the K2 theme&lt;/a&gt; when "ajax comments" are enabled. 

For now I've just disabled ajax-comments. 

In terms of &lt;a href="http://singpolyma.net/plugins/allavatars/" rel="nofollow"&gt;AllAvatars&lt;/a&gt; what I've done is create a new "uber avatars" plugin, based on &lt;a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/mbla/" rel="nofollow"&gt;MBLA plugin&lt;/a&gt;, with &lt;a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/favatars" rel="nofollow"&gt;Favatars&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://singpolyma.net/plugins/avatar-from-url/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Avatar from URL&lt;/a&gt; added in as additional choices. 

The challenge, as I see it, is that the &lt;a href="http://singpolyma.net/plugins/avatar-from-url/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Avatar from URL&lt;/a&gt; is too "greedy" in what it accepts - I'd prefer that it only find images inside an hCard, for example. 

Right now, if I change the order to bring "Avatar from URL" up ahead of Gravatar, MyBlogLog, and Favatar options, your comment above ends up with Jim Kirk's photo, since that image appears on http://singpolyma.net/ with a class of "photo fn."

I do plan to work on making the parsing of hCard more precise, and will certainly send you code if I make any progress. 

But, I'm happy now with getting Gravatar, MyBlogLog, and Favatar, in that order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen - thanks for the comment. Seems that the <a href="http://spanring.eu/blog/2007/03/07/openid-in-wordpress/" rel="nofollow">WP-OpenID plugin has some conflict with the K2 theme</a> when &#8220;ajax comments&#8221; are enabled. </p>
<p>For now I&#8217;ve just disabled ajax-comments. </p>
<p>In terms of <a href="http://singpolyma.net/plugins/allavatars/" rel="nofollow">AllAvatars</a> what I&#8217;ve done is create a new &#8220;uber avatars&#8221; plugin, based on <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/mbla/" rel="nofollow">MBLA plugin</a>, with <a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/favatars" rel="nofollow">Favatars</a> and <a href="http://singpolyma.net/plugins/avatar-from-url/" rel="nofollow">Avatar from URL</a> added in as additional choices. </p>
<p>The challenge, as I see it, is that the <a href="http://singpolyma.net/plugins/avatar-from-url/" rel="nofollow">Avatar from URL</a> is too &#8220;greedy&#8221; in what it accepts - I&#8217;d prefer that it only find images inside an hCard, for example. </p>
<p>Right now, if I change the order to bring &#8220;Avatar from URL&#8221; up ahead of Gravatar, MyBlogLog, and Favatar options, your comment above ends up with Jim Kirk&#8217;s photo, since that image appears on <a href="http://singpolyma.net/" rel="nofollow">http://singpolyma.net/</a> with a class of &#8220;photo fn.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do plan to work on making the parsing of hCard more precise, and will certainly send you code if I make any progress. </p>
<p>But, I&#8217;m happy now with getting Gravatar, MyBlogLog, and Favatar, in that order.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Paul Weber</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Paul Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 18:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AllAvatars really should check for both plugins (hence, "all)

I was unaware that there was an "official" one :)

Wouldn't let me comment with OpenID... AJAX thing came up and then left...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AllAvatars really should check for both plugins (hence, &#8220;all)</p>
<p>I was unaware that there was an &#8220;official&#8221; one <img src='http://www.goatless.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t let me comment with OpenID&#8230; AJAX thing came up and then left&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so here I am signed in as the admin for this blog via OpenID - but I think the gravatar registered here will still take precedence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so here I am signed in as the admin for this blog via OpenID - but I think the gravatar registered here will still take precedence.</p>
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		<title>By: John Eckman</title>
		<link>http://www.goatless.org/2007/12/31/testing-plugins#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>John Eckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For this comment I provided my work email address - should be a different gravatar, but still me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For this comment I provided my work email address - should be a different gravatar, but still me.</p>
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